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‏שבת ‏16 ‏דצמבר ‏2017 22:09

10-20 סיגמה טוקינה או ניקון?

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שלום לכולם וחנוכה שמח.

אני רוצה לקנות עדשה רחבה ומתלבט בין 10-20 סיגמה, 11-16 טוקינה או 10-20 ניקון.

הרבה נכתב פה אבל בכל זאת נאבדתי.. וגם לא מצאתי שום התייחסות לניקון.

סיגמה - קראתי פה הרבה התייחסויות והבנתי שעקרונית היא מצוינת (דגם צמצם 4) רק שזה תלוי על מה אתה נופל ויש הבדלים באיכות בתוך הדגם הזה.

טוקינה - החיסרון זה שאין מרכזי שירות בארץ, משמעותי לדעתכם? חוץ מזה יש גם את 8-16 שיקרה משמעותית, איך היא? שווה את זה?

ניקון - לא מצאתי פה התייחסות לעדשה הזאת... למה לא בעצם?

אשמח גם אם תוכלו לכתוב על האם לקנות דווקא את הדור החדש בכל אחת מהעדשות.

תודה רבה!

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